Between jokes about identity politics and urine, the popular Podcaster Theo von and his recent gig guest debated President Donald Trump’s tariffs and trade policies. Can short-term price increases justify the return on manufacturing jobs back to the United States? Or will automation and artificial intelligence eventually make these jobs flourish?
“It’s a matter of tariffs. The goal of tariffs is…if people bring products to more expenses, will they build them here?” Feng asked comedian Mark Normand in the April 7 episode The past weekend with Theo von.
“Yes, that’s part of that,” Normander replied. They continue:
Feng: “It’s a long-term game. It takes a while.”
Normander: “It will be bumpy for a while, but that’s it if it works. So we’ll see, but it may take 10 years. ”
Feng: “Yes, but if we don’t try this, I think it’s a package.”
Feng then recounts some of his memories from his stand-up tour in the United States: In many towns and smaller cities where he performed, “there is nothing there.” There is no business, no industry, and no abandoned downtown. “You start to like it, Nothing will change. There is nothing that can make this different, right? ”
It sounds like tariffs may be a way to reverse the issue. But don’t forget, Normander replied: “We’ve automated, we have AI, so the work is gone quickly, and now everything is digital. There’s no production here.”
Feng was very sad. “It’s one thing people say, even if you bring your work back here, that job will go away because of AI,” he said. “This is one of the other arguments against tariffs.”
This excerpt is one of the more complex conversations that have taken place in Trump and the podcast news space. This is a lot.
Trump’s tariff proposal, part of the delay and its impact on the stock market have been hot topics in “Manosphere” – podcasts and a loose network of influencers, who are specifically targeting young people.
Trump News reports differ from mainstream coverage – usually through personal anecdotes, comedy and drama with non-subject matter experts. But this is very important.
This competition is a useful leader in Trump’s response to Trump’s lasting alliance. These botanists hold the swing of tens of millions of Americans, a key path for the Trump movement to reach lower tendencies and lower information voters, especially young people. They are both a useful tool to track Trump’s presidency, people tend to not retain the scope of political news and serve as setset parties for voters.
For now, it seems to be chaos, fear, and for some, a resilient trust in Trump: the internet ecosystem that follows his “Liberation Day” tariff announcement, and subsequently implemented, podcasts, influencers and streaming, which constitute the streaming length of the composition The so-called Horse ring It seems not to understand what Trump is doing, it seems unwilling to approve it, or just keep it quiet.
In other words, they behave like ordinary Americans.
You probably know some of them: Von, Joe Rogan and Andrew Huberman. Andrew Schulz, Shawn Ryan, Dave Portnoy and Lex Fridman. Everyone recognized Trump, most hosted Trump on the show, and everyone was excited about the beginning of his tenure. After a few months, the situation was very different.
Some people in the Mansion circle are increasingly criticizing Trump
Manosphere is not consistent: there are no secret meetings when they call for consensus. But broadly speaking, their reactions can be divided into three categories so far: those who criticize Trump’s tariffs, those who are confused by them, but are willing to bring doubts to the president, and those who are completely fond of the topic.
The first category includes conservative commentator Ben Shapiro, Barstool Sports founder Dave Portnoy, and podcast Joe Rogan, among others. Apart from Shapiro, they have no deep ideological beliefs and seem to be more concerned about the pocket book consequences in the stock market.
For example, when Rogan talks about Trump’s trade policy, podcasts often express confusion, fear, and fear that Trump’s behavior is instability, far beyond his campaign promises, especially when tariffs from close allies.
“I’m afraid of such tariffs because it’s a fundamental change, and I’m afraid of fundamental change,” Rogan said in the week between the announcement of Liberation Day on April 5 and their implementation on April 9. “You know what I mean? ”
He hasn’t really commented on Trump since then, saying he understands the nostalgia of American manufacturing.
Shapiro also criticized him for his broad attitude before Trump announced tariffs on other countries. Shapiro called tariffs a “really problematic” tool to boost domestic production and wealth building on last Monday. “It’s a natural benefit, and the idea that the U.S. economy is strong is wrong…it’s not true. It’s also incorrect that it will lead to a large-scale restoration of manufacturing.” Since then, he has been criticized – acknowledging the confrontation with China, but criticizing the bluntness of a tariff trade war.
Meanwhile, Portnoy is more obvious that Trump “crashed the entire stock market” on “Orange Monday,” calling him “the best president of all time” at the end of the weekend. Still, he clarified on CNN this week that he “has never been a crazy magazine.”
In addition to his personal concerns about the stock market, he did explain on the show that a turbulent market will have a downstream impact on small businesses, prices and unemployment rates. It matches emotions, another major influencer, Mr. Beast Express When the tariffs were announced, “We’ll figure it out. I feel for small businesses. It’s really a nail in the coffin for them.”
There are also real confusions between Brocasters who trust Trump
The second type of Manosphere creators are confused about the meaning of tariffs and Trump’s justifications lead the country into the trade war. They don’t necessarily have opposition or enthusiasm for tariffs, reducing trade deficits or recreating manufacturing – they just want to better understand Trump’s mind and rest assured that the people they support have not lost all connections to reality.
This category includes Von, who expressed in his conversation with Normand, who only releases one episode a week. It includes comedian Andrew Schulz, who from Go all out podcast Spend an hour and a half Explain why reciprocity tariffs are a good idea, how the United States is said to be picky through unfair trade deals, and why universal tariffs are the only way to reorder the global order (just Trump brings it back the next day).
Entrepreneur Patrick Bet-David’s podcast and Neck Boys Send all Podcast hosted by Kyle Leadard: Both have the former of Trump’s defender (Sycophantic commentator Benny Johnson, the latter Sean Hannity) trying to understand Trump’s thoughts. Both owners remained Trump friendly, but even if the White House tried to cross Trump’s delays, there seemed to be no tariffs sold.
Others avoid tariff conversations at all
Finally, there are many other commentators who endorsed or received Trump, who had no trade-offs at all. Given that many people claim to focus on current events and trend topics, their silence is somewhat confused.
Hosts like Andrew Huberman, Lex Fridman, Jake and Logan Paul have not addressed tariffs or stock market shocks at the show. Some have released episodes that include interviews with guests, who may not be willing to discuss economics but rather about mental and physical health, foreign policy and war, homeschool or conspiracy theories.
How to say these podcasts, asking and thinking is important
These commentators can reach and represent a new Republican constituency: Americans who do not tend to follow news, who are not the most politically conscious or involved, or who passively consume information through non-news programs.
Tracking how they respond to Trump’s economic agenda gives us insight into what the political implications of that agenda might be. They gave us one Temperature check In a new group that joined the Republican coalition in November.
Their consumers and followers are very different from those who have developed through mainstream and traditional media: New York Times and Washington Post readers, for example, may have been shut down by Trump and opposed his tariff plans. Joe Rogan, Barstool Sports and Theo Von listeners are more likely to benefit Trump. But if they are listening to the host for multiple hours a week with the president, that distance could lead these listeners to a second guess Trump or look for more information about what he is doing. This can lead to long-term defection or disillusionment – time remains until the midterm elections.
