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Founder of Outkick Clay Travis And ESPN stars Stephen A. Smith A lively, respectful debate took place on Wednesday at Summit, covering a wide variety of topics including sports, NBA politics, the Trump administration’s plan to send the National Guard to American cities and even their respective political aspirations.
The debate lasted less than an hour and began with the recognition of front-end sports host Baker Machado, which involved the tragic assassination of activists and media personality by Charlie Kirk, a champion of respected public discourse.
That’s exactly what it’s showing Throughout the debate Between the two, while they may not agree with everything, they are obviously respectful.
That’s good stuff, we need more.
So let’s look at some of the bigger moments of the event.
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Politics in sports
Obviously, the focus of this debate is politics, sports, and then the middle of the Venn Chart. So, first ask a question about whether the movement is more politicized or whether media and people like Clay and Smith do it.
“I think we did it to some extent,” Smith said. “It’s not that there’s no politics involved. It involves politics. Everything involves politics, and we understand that.”
He went on to discuss how athletes from previous generations felt forced to speak out because of the pressure from their respective communities, an idea he later involved in the debate, and even said that in similar respects, community pressure forced him to gain more political nature after Trayvon Martin’s death.
After talking about the importance of such a civil dialogue, Travis talked about the fact that sports are “unique unity.”
“I’m old school to some extent. I think Michael Jordan is right. I think it depends on what your brand is, but I think sports are a unique team,” he said. “Unfortunately, I just watched my University of Tennessee volunteers reject the victory of the Georgia Bulldogs. It was a great game this weekend, but every time I was in the arena, every time I went to the stadium, when you were rooting in the home team, you were rooting in the home team, or you were sitting around the people around, or you didn’t think about race, you didn’t think about religion, you were thinking about anyone, you were thinking about who you were. Together.”
Support for Donald Trump surge among black people
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After discussing the NBA’s turn to politics and how that affects its visibility, the conversation turned to a surge in blacks who voted for President Donald Trump, 21% of whom voted against him during the 2024 presidential election.
“I think it’s because people see the Democratic Party as extinction,” Travis said. “And if you want a panoramic view of me, I think a lot of the struggles we see in life are fathers and men aren’t allowed to be men. I have three boys raising them. I keep hearing from them, ‘toxic masculinity.’ We won’t talk about toxic femininity.
Smith admits he thinks it’s not wrong, but jokes that it’s “far from right.” He proposed another explanation.
“Black people are like most men; affordability, economics. Do you understand?” Smith said. “I mean, yes, ‘How much do you want to put in my pocket? How much tax do I have to pay? How can I afford to provide and protect my family?’ You want to be safe on the street.”
Trump’s National Guard
Speaking of street safety, the discussion also talks about the president’s use of the National Guard to curb crime in Washington, D.C. and his plan to do the same in Memphis, Tennessee.
Travis praised the president for his efforts to clean up the country’s capital.
“Politicians often pretend that black violence and inner city violence doesn’t exist,” he said. “Trump is actually trying to solve it.”
As for Smith, he questioned the constitutionality of the National Guard outside Washington, D.C. to send the National Guard, but he said he didn’t care whether Trump decided to send troops to Chicago.
“In Chicago, I don’t say anything to them,” he said. “I don’t have any problems with the National Guard people. Before Obama took office, it was a problem when he was a junior senator. When he was eight years as president for eight years, there was a problem. Now, they’ve been a problem. They’ve already had a problem. I’ve seen black people on TV locally and nationwide, crying nationwide, both in the National Guard and challenging things. In that city.”
Instead, Smith believes other cities with known criminal problems, such as Baltimore and St. Louis, should not be treated by the National Guard. He said that this is because there are already signs of statistics in terms of crime.
Stephen A. says he can win the Democratic nomination
One of the final themes with Stephen A.
Smith says life is good these days, but he talks about why he stops slamming the door He runs for public office.
“I don’t want to be a politician,” he said. “Life is really really good. I really don’t want to compromise, but all kinds of people (including my pastor, this business and others) keep an open mind because you never know what will happen in this country in a few years. As a result, you’ll be afraid of you, whether you’ll be afraid to say, you’ll be willing to, you’ll be willing to, you’ll be willing to, otherwise, you’ll be willing to, you’ll be willing to, you’ll be willing to, you’ve run for office. That’s what I did.”
When he questioned his ability to raise funds, Smith said he was totally confident that his ideas could get the job done.
“But if I didn’t have to worry about all of this and it’s just my thoughts and my position on you, I think I’d win the Democratic nomination,” he said.
Clay was then asked if he would be with Stephen A.
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“I think Steven Ah gets what we’re tired of professional politicians,” Clay said.
Then will he run?
“If Stephen runs, I’ll run, I’ll kick his A-.”
As you might expect, this is the last question that both of them disagree.
“No, he won’t.” Smith said.
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